I am working on a manga inspired by Berserk. Do you feel it ?

Well, I don't know the context, but it looks like that monster crushed someone that girl cares about right in front of her (maybe one of those kids from the upper panel?). Pretty sad I guess.

Also, the encounter reminds me of a Dark Souls boss fight, so yeah there's that. :ganishka:
 
I see that the invention drawings are not on par with the traced ones and the difference of quality is stark to my trained / experienced eye, it shouldn't refrain you from training more your anatomy and proportions on invention drawing, but you have to be aware that the difference between the mastery of the drawing you are tracing on, are way above your skill when you draw other characters on the other panels.

Your "invention" drawing from imagination are closer to a Fairy Tail style manga and the berserk character in the armor absolutely feel out of place, like Roger Rabbit as a drawing ontop of the movie tape in front of real actors, if you know what i mean, that kind of contrast and difference between the two art styles.

The hatching quality and mastery also is all over the place and not homogenous.

Reminds me too much of the guy that tried to plagiarize Bleach a long time ago and make it his own manga while copy pasting poses and tracing characters from other manga issues, and the quality dropped drastically when it came for him to draw from memory / invention.
 
There are no poses copied from another manga or traced over. You should better train your experienced eye!
Not being on the internet much, I don't know if this is part of current art concerns, or if your comment is common these days. But there is no copying or retracing of an existing drawing in anything present in this image. It's all 100% original art and all hand-drawn.

Lawliet said:
Well, I don't know the context, but it looks like that monster crushed someone that girl cares about right in front of her (maybe one of those kids from the upper panel?). Pretty sad I guess.

Also, the encounter reminds me of a Dark Souls boss fight, so yeah there's that. :ganishka:
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Thank you!
 
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dagorath said:
There are no poses copied from another manga or traced over. You should better train your experienced eye!
Not being on the internet much, I don't know if this is part of current art concerns, or if your comment is common these days. But there is no copying or retracing of an existing drawing in anything present in this image. It's all 100% original art and all hand-drawn.
Thanks for your feedback !
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I'm sorry to be harsh like this, but there is absolutely a stark difference in realism and assurance of lines betwen what you build yourself from invention / memory drawing and what you very obviously took from berserk itself. And this is very visible in the faces, in the stances, the hands, the finger positions that are less natural with your OC's, even the hathing is much more sparse, omitted or absent and less masterized on your OC's characters.

The face of the girl and the little blonde dude are a stark departure from the drawing style and more precise anatomy and posture from the character in armor, the face of the girl in the last panel of the page also shows the rather deep contrast and difference between what you can draw as original and the rest.

There is also less "3D" volume / feel of your OC characters fitting in the environment then that specific knight in armor, and the tracing of the cathedral are especially too fast and wobbly. (telltale sign it's traced over too)

Another note, the butterfly panel is absolutely not your drawing neither. It's either an effect that you applied in a program and is miles ahead in precision of your own lineart / more refined and photographic / realistic like. that's also what happens when you don't want to draw everything on the page (as well as some backgrounds there that are just very generic manga paneling "helpers" and filigranes in clip studio paint / SAI and the likes, but heh, i won't criticize this too much.)

If a semi-professionnal comic book artist can see this i do believe a lot of the experienced Berserk Reader here that saw the little differences (not so little, actually when you can see, you see that very very easily as your experience grows in this domain. And if you look at Berserk drawings for enough years and get acclimated to the evolution in drawing of any mangaka out there, you can then spot something like this very fast. ) between Studio Gaga's team efforts of drawing that were inconsistent and more flat then Miura, can also easily tell the difference between your "invention" (honest to your skill) drawings from this page, to what is obviously copied over. because when you are not copying, the composition of the bodies and proportions of the characters quickly fall apart. And if you still insist on claiming it's ALL from your imagination / invention, then you intentionally draw characters much much worse then others intentionally ? The style of the lineart as well as drawing don't match each others in these two pages and its not subtle to the experienced eye. Either you draw everything with the same quality to homogenize the style or, you do what you are doing and it's jumping up and down in quality all over the place Much much worse and in rapid succession then a chapter 365 / 366 where some Miura drawings were mixed with some of Kujou Mori's team.

I can even tell you invented parts of the lower leg of the knight on the first panel, some of his torso armor "lines" and other little details just so it looks different enough from the original material. But these inventions and "drawing over" the original can be seen too if you just pay attention 2 minutes... Because... The "calligraphic" quality and precision of the lineart takes a nosedive, just like when bad paint restorators paint over a great artists without the skill to match the original art and it just jump to the face of the more experienced watchers.

Just these 4 drawings alone have a huge drawing STYLE difference between each others :

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I'm looking at 4 different mangaka's with a different art style, on the same page.

To try to put it in other terms, i feel like i'm looking at a Dark fantasy novel-like extremely realistic accurate character with a "pro" rating drawing style taken right out of Berserk, then a nintendo property character with a simplistic, cherubin and well traced stylized art style, then suddenly a drawing from an old 80's character design for a dragon quest type side character, then the fanart drawing of the blonde girl in dragon quest made by a 12 year old that doesn't know much about nose, to eye proportions and placement in the face, as her forehead to hair ratio is also vastly shortened... (and let's not talk about the ridiculous compression / stacking of 6 of the metallic beads on her forehead protection gear that suddenly need to be 2 times smaller and compressed / stacked fit in a space that is much much smaller and doesn't make sense from her previous drawing in terms of size and space between the metal beads...)

There would be a lot, lot more to say about the inside church / cathedral shot but these 4 are a sufficient example.

Hence why, again, i will reiterate to work on your anatomy and proportions and the natural poses of the body.

It's okay to be a beginner and let your style improve, but if you keep doing what you are doing to cheat your way out of fundamentals, you will quickly fall into the "Nick Simmons" category in no time and get called out by manga readers.
 
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Pretty cool! But I've only felt the berserk vibe on the monster scene, the kids scene reminds me more of AOT at the beginning or even Fairy Tail. But I think it's very cool.
 
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