I will keep it short for once: Does anybody on this board have access to a really decent map of the Berserk World that you could share? All I found after a rough search through the webz was low quality - good intentions at best.
Since I was a child, reading Tolkiens works, I have always loved maps and was fascinated by them. This here frustrates me.However there is not enough information about the position of various places to create a reliable map.
Since I was a child, reading Tolkiens works, I have always loved maps and was fascinated by them. This here frustrates me.
I would love to see a map that is as correct as it is pleasing to look at.
Let's create a few languages, singing gods and continents and see where that leads ;-)Tolkien liked his world more than he liked his stories. He made the maps for himself because he genuinely cared about the geography of Middle-earth.
I would have loved to somewhen see the material concerning European history (and in general) Miura has used for inspiration and/or research. For someone from the literal other end of the world the references to real historic circumstances, behaviour and personalities from Europe are quite on point, almost perfectly simulating the crusty old heritage of violence and distrust we cherish so much.
If you are really into history, many flaws appear rather quickly, but that only breaks the immersion if one forces the real world into the story... which is generally not advisable I'd say.
That makes the convincing nature of his art even more impressive to me. It makes it look like he studied at least some sources describing practice of the inquisition during the high middle ages. Simply astonishing!He spoke at length about his many inspirations and influences in his interviews over the years. In short, it's mostly movies, manga and animation. He used picture books of medieval armors and weaponry as part of his research material and had a great erudition in general, but I don't think he studied European history specifically. That's just not what Berserk is about.
Exactly. But if a history nerd like me was not supposed to draw comparisons then he should not have made his stories' immersion SO DAMN GOOD. :-DWell Berserk is a fantasy story, not historical fiction. There's no real ground for comparison outside of a few borrowed terms.
Really disappointing that the creator did not use the opportunity to work together when there is a community with great interest in detail... To be confronted with problems should result in ambition to find a solution, not end in ignorance and giving up a project. I am not content with the positioning of doldrey either - some mountain ranges are shaped weirdly as well.This fan-made map from Reddit a few years back might satisfy your map curiosity. It's one of the better ones that I've seen, but ... I still have a pretty sizable list of problems with it (among them: Doldrey is supposed to be at a strategically critical location, but here it's shown in the middle of a mountain range), which I told the map creator about, but they didn't seem to care, so... what's the point?
Completely get it. It is just the internalized reflex of mine to always imagine the map of everything when I read a story because I then have the basis to imagine wandering all the potential different locations in said fantastic world. And I know many people feel similarly, so we deserve a map!^^Like Aaz already said, any map of the Berserk world would necessarily require many assumptions, because Miura never established specifics of territories that would necessitate defining hard borders around them. You could simply say that he wasn't interested in it, so he never did it. But I'd even go as far as saying he would never have made one. Miura had said in a few of his more recent interviews (Guidebook + Persona) that he wanted his world to feel familiar, so he opted for Disney's approach to fantasy ("Once Upon a Time, Somewhere...") without laying down too many foreign concepts.
Nothing to comment here, just wanted to point out this sentence for its quality.It's the antithesis of worlds created by a fantasy writer
Yes! I also noticed the shapes of the land masses are quite heavily distorted in Miuras' panel but the final projection of the geography without civilization is convincing for me. Dropping Russias' asian part is fine for me (allthough I would criticize Miura for the general lack of ice and snow in the north).Map of Midland
Miura needs to do a map of the Berserk World in the style of the Hyborian/European map from the old Conan paperbacks. :guts: That would be awesome, but still, a chance of this happening... :sad:www.skullknight.net
Lots of vintage topographical analysis and amateur cartography from back when we first saw the world. In retrospect I'm actually a little proud of the one superimposing the map of Europe over the visible landmasses.
And I have yet another issue: Vritannis. Where? In the fan made map it is located roughly where rl Rome is located. That coheres with it being the supposed lands of the holy see. But for me it doesn't add up taking a longer route by ship (including exponentially more opportunities of attack) through the 'mediteranian sea' to get to a celtic island. Since Elfhelm is not at all tropical but displays a kind of european jungle, the route would lead south-east to get through Gibraltar (no hints on something like that in the over 9000 ship-chapters) and then north and then north-west again. Every rl example of myths towards sacred islands combined with elves and celts can only point towards either Ireland or Iceland. Because we have not (yet) seen volcanos on Elfhelm I would suggest Elfhelm being represented by Ireland or the mythical Island of hy-brasil, west of Ireland, always clouded in mist, only visibly once every 7 years and ofc swarming with mythical creatures. That would mean the most logical route would lead through France, possibly the Bretagne (Britanny) in particular. "Vritannis" sounds similar to Britanny, even though I know that this is very thin evidence but we have to cling to something don't we?
Yes! I also noticed the shapes of the land masses are quite heavily distorted in Miuras' panel but the final projection of the geography without civilization is convincing for me. Dropping Russias' asian part is fine for me (allthough I would criticize Miura for the general lack of ice and snow in the north).
Yet I take offense. You could have written your criticism without the insults. Obviously, it was important to you to formulate your feelings in belittling my remarks. I feel sorry that what I wrote seems to have made you angry. I have to oppose what you said. You write definitive and in present tense: "there are no rules". Who says that? You? Even though I respect your profound knowledge, you write as if Miura himself sits upon your shoulder, whispering the truth. I did not speak of a "rule". I did not even say that something has to be a certain way. I said that it would seem most logical to me and expressed that in lengthy sentences that yet do not contain everything concerning that topic I have thought about. If I would not have known your "style" of response, I propably would not even have taken the time answering this because of the discorteous nature of your message.No offense but this all just sounds idiotic to me.
You write definitive and in present tense: "there are no rules". Who says that? You? Even though I respect your profound knowledge, you write as if Miura himself sits upon your shoulder, whispering the truth. I did not speak of a "rule". I did not even say that something has to be a certain way.
To me, it is obvious that Elfhelm is very strongly inspired by celtic mythicism.
Yes it is fantasy. But that is exactly the reason I can very well imagine Miura placing a french-italian city at the west coast of France or even Spain to let his protagonist ship to friggin' Tír na nÓg. Which is in Ireland.
Vritannis sounds similar to Biritanny. I wanted to mention this because I thought it interesting because it fits. 'Britannis' is a latin declension of Britannia - Britain.
I will not let myself down to using insulting words even though this made me very upset because I think it would not bring anything positive to fruition.