Menosgade said:I hope the bazooka shot killed it.
NCHaskew said:As for least favorite, I gotta say Wyald. I don't hate anything in Berserk, but I'm close on him. He kind of just felt like a hat on a hat. The '97 anime and film trilogy both cut him and I'd say it really adds to the impact of the Eclipse. In my humble opinion.
NCHaskew said:As for least favorite, I gotta say Wyald. I don't hate anything in Berserk, but I'm close on him. He kind of just felt like a hat on a hat. The '97 anime and film trilogy both cut him and I'd say it really adds to the impact of the Eclipse. In my humble opinion.
Archer1215 said:I would also argue that the Wyald sequence doesn’t detract from the Eclipse, it reinforces the gravity of the situation. Only recently one Apostle gave them so much trouble, and now they are surrounded by dozens of them (if not more than a hundred). It makes their situation seem all the more bleak and hopeless.
Aazealh said:Your opinion fucking sucks.
Walter said:Agreed. A common reading of the Wyald sequence is that it undermines the Eclipse by essentially having a "mini-feast." But instead, it's establishing the stakes for the Eclipse, so that when we realize all those figures on the horizon are each apostles, we know we aren't in for a big fight and escape sequence for most of our heroes, but an inescapable death. That's an absolute tonal shift that neither of the anime adaptations succeeds at pulling off.
Archer1215 said:The Wyald sequence is great for several reasons.
For one thing, it’s the first time Guts manages to defeat an Apostle, which is a significant accomplishment. The sequence contrasts quite a bit with his first encounter with Zodd, where he was shaking in fear and hardly able to do anything against him.
NCHaskew said:I definitely see the argument, I just think that Guts' first encounter with Zodd serves a similar purpose. On top of the "mini-feast," I also think his continual rape of every woman he sees also detracts from the Eclipse. His almost-rape of Casca is just... I don't know, it feels less story significant and more shock-value.
DANGERDOOOOM said:Has to be Grunbeld for me, by far. I've always had a fascination with Giants and Dragons. I would love more story about him.
Bwha ha ha ha.DANGERDOOOOM said:Man, I gotta be careful on what I wish for.
Walter said:Agreed. A common reading of the Wyald sequence is that it undermines the Eclipse by essentially having a "mini-feast." But instead, it's establishing the stakes for the Eclipse, so that when we realize all those figures on the horizon are each apostles, we know we aren't in for a big fight and escape sequence for most of our heroes, but an inescapable death. That's an absolute tonal shift that neither of the anime adaptations succeeds at pulling off.
DANGERDOOOOM said:Man, I gotta be careful on what I wish for.
Giovanna said:Doesn’t it also serves to show Guts (and everyone there) that those monsters are originally also humans? The end of that sequence is quite awesome, when Wyald’s body turns back into an old man and everybody sees it happening. Without this moment, Guts could very well not know that the apostles were humans before, no? And also that they are naturally evil, not just during eclipse ceremonies. I don’t think seeing what Griffith did would be enough to know this because his is a ‘special’ case, so Miura introduces this information to Guts with Wyald.
Irvine!!
his design for me is just!!